the math. they say that as part of the deal, and they are talking about $4 trillion in deficit reduction, that if you close the loopholes and you're not going to close the loopholes for the middle class, you're just not going to get enough money, 400, $500 billion. the president says he wants $1.6 trillion. my guess is he would probably settle for around a trillion. so -- and in addition, look, the president campaigned, i mean, certainly made it no secret that was one of the big issues between him and romney. he campaigned on raising the tax rates on the top 2%. people making over $250,000. he won. he thinks he's got a mandate on that issue. >> hopefully we'll hear something today, a little bit of wiggle room, i hope. i also wanted to ask about the removal of four republicans from key committees. what is that all about? >> well, this is in the house. this is speaker john boehner, and, you know, he's trying to get people behind him and he's basically saying to some of the conservatives who have been off the reservation, and he's had a big problem. one of his problems is he's got to deal w